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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.25 03:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Shin Ra
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in WWI they may have played footie on Xmas for a while, but they also continually lined up and mowed eachother down with machine guns - much like modern day eve fleet fights.
My grandfather was in the trenches in WW1.. keep RL out of this game pls.
To compare EVE in any way to the horror those men went through for our sake ... is banal to the extreme.
Sometime you people need to remember .. that what we are actually doing is sitting infront of a bleeding computer shooting at pixels .....thats it .. nothing more nothing less.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.25 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 25/11/2006 04:19:36
Originally by: Shin Ra
I suggest you keep your personal issues you have with me from prompting you to make such ludicrous allegations that what I'm saying is in some way trivial. Your entitled to your opinion, but insulting or even implying an insult another poster IS against the forums rules.
Get it through your head that I don't care about you... just keep RL out of it.. talk about military strategy till the sun comes down.....
Originally by: ShinRa
but in WWI they may have played footie on Xmas for a while, but they also continually lined up and mowed eachother down with machine guns - much like modern day eve fleet fights
that isnt military strategy within the context of the game... now is it?
Thats just a gratuitous, morose comparison.
i.e unnecessary
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.26 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 26/11/2006 17:50:44
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Respect is an overused word in eve and holds little value in my opinion.
Finally some sense in this silly thread, the word only has any value when the people that say it to eachother actually mean it and know it, and then there is no ambiguity in its meaning.
The rest is all b-oll-ocks.
Neither ASCN or BoB respect eachother really.. which is why this war is so fun to watch.. long may it continue.
ASCN have managed to call BoB everything from cheaters to quake kiddies to GM exploiters, BoB lite.. etc...
and BoB think ASCN should relocate to empire cause they can't fight their way out of a paper bag.
Respect? .. yeah right..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.26 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: killerco
Originally by: Nez Perces
Neither ASCN or BoB respect eachother really.. which is why this war is so fun to watch.. long may it continue.
oh so you deside for me who i respect and don't respect
I'll make that own decision thank you very much
Actually, I meant the organisations you belong to.... there isn't a whole lot of respect between the two alliances.. which goes both ways.
What individual pilots think .. is anybody's guess....
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.26 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 26/11/2006 21:23:05
Originally by: killerco
you mean there isn't any respect amongst the alliance leaders there is a difference
well... I think you are walking on thin ice when you distance yourself from what your leaders think... after all they are *leading* you .. and if you think they are wrong.... then there is a bigger problem than the 'respect' issue.
BoB leadership and ASCN leadership, represent their alliances respectively.....
E.g if Cyvok says BoB suck, then to all intense and purposes, as far as ASCN is concerned they *do* suck.
.. likewise for BoB.
If an alliance is not prepared to have its views represented by its leadership.. that alliance is in a whole lot of trouble.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.26 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: killerco
i'm not distance myself from my alliance leaders in any way.
.. never said you had, it was just an example. 
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.26 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: eleuthereus
Originally by: Nez Perces
well... I think you are walking on thin ice when you distance yourself from what your leaders think... after all they are *leading* you .. and if you think they are wrong.... then there is a bigger problem than the 'respect' issue.
I disagree.
Soldiers do not always agree with what their leaders tell them to do, but they do it. They are following orders. Also, these same leaders often make comments that go beyond simple military/political views into expressions of personal beliefs about enemies. Again, not every soldier agrees with those comments, but they continue to follow orders.
Leadership may represent a corporate official view, but this does not negate personal, subjective views of those who make up the alliance.
One thing is to privately have opinions and thoughts contrary to your leaderships position... and by privately I mean on corporate or even alliance forums... but quite another is to voice such opinions on the EVE-O boards.
If an alliance pronounces its point of view via its leadership on these boards but then the rank and file publicly state they think otherwise, then the leadership are going to cut pretty solitary figures.... and their powerbase will be diminished for it.
E.G.. this thread.... Sir Molle has categorically stated that BoB via his statement has little respect for ASCN.
So... BoB pilots will by and large tow the company line at least in public, thus shoring up their leaderships position and confirming their authority.
If BoB pilots couldn't even tow the company line in public then it would show that there are potentialy catastrophic differences of opinion within their alliance.
Yeah everybody has their opinions.. but in public an alliance has to act as one, lest such disunity transfer itself to the battlefield.
BoB are united in their purpose, you will rarely find a BoB pilot disagreeing in public with their leadership....thats power, power to do things, which other less unified alliances cannot.
Cause if you can't follow your leaderships lead on the forums, what hope is there of it happening on the field, when you may have to spend a LOT of time in gangs fighting, sometimes when you don't fancy it.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.27 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
What follows is three pages of philosophical rambling on what respect is, and what it's worth. Could this get any more pedantic?
Well the thread kind of died with Molle's post.. I think its now just a case of kicking the corpse around.
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